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Author:  JohnAbercrombie [ Thu Jan 25, 2007 8:07 am ]
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I just noticed that LeeValley doesn't sell blonde shellac flakes any more.
Does anybody know of a Cdn source for these?
I know they're available from LMI (and others?) in the US, but I'd like to get them fairly quickly - without paying a big loadadough to UPS/FedEx.
Thanks
John

Author:  Serge Poirier [ Thu Jan 25, 2007 8:14 am ]
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John, Can't wait to hear on that too, i purchased the orange shellac flakes at Lee Valley for the same reason you mentionned in your post and even if it would give a nice vintage look, i'd rather have the blonde flakes too.

Serge

Author:  JohnAbercrombie [ Thu Jan 25, 2007 8:35 am ]
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Serge-
The reason I ask is that I decided to put a 'wash coat' aka sealer coat on an Engelmann top this morning and got a very uneven colour with the amber shellac.
Fortunately, this was prior to cutting for the rosette, and the top had some extra thickness. With a combination of 'washing' the shellac off with alcohol and a bit of sanding, that's now the bracing side of the top!
Back to square one...
John

Author:  DannyV [ Thu Jan 25, 2007 8:40 am ]
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Home Depot sells Zinsser pre mixed in clear and amber but it's not flakes.
Had a look at some of my usual finishing sources and had no luck.

Author:  Serge Poirier [ Thu Jan 25, 2007 9:26 am ]
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Sorry to hear about that John, good luck with the fix!

Thanks Danny!

Author:  Alain Desforges [ Thu Jan 25, 2007 12:19 pm ]
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Johh, I don't know if you have a Richelieu Hardware in your area, but you might be able to order online too.

Check it out here.

Hope this helps.

Author:  JohnAbercrombie [ Thu Jan 25, 2007 12:48 pm ]
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Thanks, Alain.
I checked it out, but it appears that you can only order online if you have a customer# (?). I may be missing something obvious.
I'll check out a store next time I'm 'back east'.
John


Author:  Rod True [ Thu Jan 25, 2007 1:35 pm ]
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Danny, are you sure that HD sells Zinnzer's pre-mix. They don't sell it anywhere around me.

John, check out Wood Essence, they are in Saskatoon.Rod True39107.9017476852

Author:  Alain Desforges [ Thu Jan 25, 2007 1:36 pm ]
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Ah, that's too bad. I guess it's like when I tried to go buy some lacquer there. I was asked to fill in a form to ask for a customer account... I told them I just wanted to pay up front and didn't want an acount... They said I could buy the lacquer once or twice but that I would have to become a registered customer eventually...


Author:  JohnAbercrombie [ Thu Jan 25, 2007 2:34 pm ]
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Rod-
That's what I was looking for (Wood Essence). Thanks!!
John

Author:  TonyKarol [ Thu Jan 25, 2007 2:39 pm ]
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Yep, Richelieu is a distributor, you need to have a business and a PST number (in Ontario anyway) to buy there.

Author:  DoctorX2k2 [ Thu Jan 25, 2007 2:54 pm ]
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Sorry to hijack, but how many pounds would one need to FP a guitar?

Author:  DannyV [ Thu Jan 25, 2007 4:38 pm ]
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Hey Rod and all, I just looked online at Home Depot as we don't have one
here in Wee Powell River. I guess that doesn't mean they actually have the
products they show on line. Richelieu in BC seems to have people walking in
off the street doing business when I'm in there. I have a cash account with
them with the name of an apartment block. I think I did fill out an
application and they gave me a customer # but I don't remember it being a
big deal. If you can come up with some sort of business name I don't think
you need a tax #.They seem to be getting more into finishes and I think have
become the distributor for Mowhawk. (10 min later) And I just went to the
Richelieu site. I filled in there form with my customer # and they e-mailed
me a 34 digit access code. I'm going to have a hard time remembering that
one. And they do have the blond flakes as I see Alain has pointed us to.
They're a good company with lots of cool stuff.

Author:  JohnAbercrombie [ Thu Jan 25, 2007 4:48 pm ]
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[QUOTE=DoctorX2k2] Sorry to hijack, but how many pounds would one need to FP a guitar?[/QUOTE]

Apparently a couple of ounces will do a guitar.
I found a good-looking FP site which has info on dissolving/diluting/quantities and more:
http://www.milburnguitars.com/fpbannerframes.html
John

Author:  Dave Rector [ Fri Jan 26, 2007 1:11 am ]
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I don't know of a source for Canadian shellac flakes, but I do know a source for Canadian Corn Flakes.

Author:  CarltonM [ Fri Jan 26, 2007 5:31 am ]
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Do you have Menard's stores in Canada? They carry Zinsser Seal Coat. Usually costs less than any other source, too. IIRC, I paid $7.00 US for my last quart.

Author:  Ron Belanger [ Fri Jan 26, 2007 5:43 am ]
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Check the Lee Valley Web site. It shows both orange and super blonde flakes. http://www.leevalley.com/wood/page.aspx?c=2&p=20030&cat=1,19 0,42942

Hope this helps -- OOPS Sorry -- just read the fine print.Ron Belanger39108.5733912037

Author:  Ron Belanger [ Fri Jan 26, 2007 5:56 am ]
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I got directed to Goudey's in Toronto. I phoned and they carry orange and lemon flakes; no blonde. http://www.goudeymfg.com/
John E Goudey Co.
21 Primrose Ave
Toronto, Ontario
M6H 3V1

(416)531-4669

Author:  Anthony Z [ Fri Jan 26, 2007 6:22 am ]
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Seeing this thread I called the Lee Valley closest to my office to see if they still had some in stock. I thought I'd be the hero and purchase the remaining 5 lbs for my Canadian OLF buds... I struck out! The fellow on the phone chuckled saying a few folks have been calling with the same question -- I dunno why we stopped stocking it.

Me thinks its time to send good ole' Mr. Lee a letter!

Other Lee Valley stores may still have some in stock. If they do -- they'll sell it to you over the counter.

Ron -- what are lemon shellac flakes? -- I've never heard of them -- are they dewaxed?   

Author:  JohnAbercrombie [ Fri Jan 26, 2007 7:27 am ]
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Thanks, guys!
I'm still waiting for a response from WoodEssence, but Goudeys is another good lead.

Perhaps we should start working on a list of (good, reliable, reasonably priced) Cdn suppliers for 'stuff' ?

John

Author:  phil c-e [ Fri Jan 26, 2007 1:08 pm ]
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john,
both woodessence and goudeys will get back to you. both are good sources.
i agree that we need a 'luthier's list' of canadian suppliers. i've had great service from all of our american suppliers and i'm sure i'll continue to use them often (just ordered from allied yesterday). but it sure is nice to order from sources here in canada. it saves a bunch on shipping and completely on the whole duty business. by the time american ordered products arrive at my door, the catalogue price is nearly meaningless.
probably makes sense to start another thread. i'll follow if you lead.
phil

Author:  Serge Poirier [ Sun Jan 28, 2007 11:41 am ]
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[QUOTE=Dave Rector] I don't know of a source for Canadian shellac flakes, but I do know a source for Canadian Corn Flakes. [/QUOTE]

And who could it be Dave?

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